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#1 Pot Hole

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 08:25 AM

Hey, I'll be the first to admit - I'm a pretty useless, sucky-aqs when riding. I've always thought I was about the most clueless, worthless crap when ignoring stop signs, red lights etc.... Not to mention, illegal cuts across lanes, one-way streets, whatever it takes to go where I'm going.

So, the other night, I go out for a ride just after sunset. And before I get a block away from my house, there's Maplewood Dentwizard rider running stop signs in front of cars, complete with no lights, reflectors etc.....

In my best piss-off manner, I tool up to the guy and suck wheel for a couple of blocks, he say's he doing a "warm-down," as he is obviously - not - anyway, I tell the guy that maybe if he's going to do laps after dark and stop signs, a light my be a good idea, and he's all like, WTF, who you think you are?

NO sooner, I let this guy go, another dude come screaming thorough another intersection, same deal, in front of traffic, no lights, no slow down, I guess plenty of guts.......

And so it goes, by the time I'm back home, in the span of an hour, I see 4 different cyclists, all "real riders", all blowing signs, no lights, all blowing off "traffic" - I mean right in their face....... not like, just staying out of people's way........

All, I know, it's no wonder that "payback" comes from some drivers..... I'm all for doing what you can and what you want on the road with a bike, [i'm no angel]  but when it comes to deliberately jamming through intersections with autos present, and then doing it at night -- well like I said, some of those drivers are going to pay us back.

I feel better now.

#2 FattyM

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 08:46 AM

You can't cure stupid.

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 09:00 AM

View PostFattyM, on May 25 2007, 09:46 AM, said:

You can't cure stupid.
But Darwin can.

Sort of...

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 09:05 AM

That's Father Darwin, to us! ;-)

And yes, he can, and will, as He sees fit. Of course, He always acts in concert with Mother Nature on such issues.


Hey, don't laugh! This model of the supernatural makes more sense than most of not all the antiquated myths recounted in all the dusty tomes on which most modern religions are based.
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Posted 25 May 2007 - 10:49 AM

It's funny how you evolutionary type folks have dietized the guy (Darwin) that "legitimatized" the theory that God did not create the heaven's and the Earth.

On a side note, one of my favorite movie lines came from a very unlikely source.  I'm sure someone out there knows it...

"God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs..."
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Posted 25 May 2007 - 11:23 AM

Trekker, your sarcasm detector is working great!

Or maybe you are being sarcastic too, in which case I'm the rube...

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 11:26 AM

View PostMcJohn, on May 25 2007, 12:23 PM, said:

Trekker, your sarcasm detector is working great!

Or maybe you are being sarcastic too, in which case I'm the rube...

John-

I don't know if I can communicate without being sarcastic.  I think I pretty much have it down to a science.
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Posted 25 May 2007 - 11:34 AM

:D I know what you mean.

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 12:17 PM

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It's funny how you evolutionary type folks have dietized the guy (Darwin) that "legitimatized" the theory that God did not create the heaven's and the Earth.

I'm more making fun of how man has anthropomorphized a being and given "Him" the responsibility of having created everything we see. I'm more referring to the forces which have directed the morphological changes of life forms over the years. Charles Darwin's name has just come to symbolize these changes and the forces which influenced (note I did not say 'caused') them in his theory of evolution. Darwinian evolution was just the first stab at legitimizing any such thing in the body of knowledge which is science. A huge step up from the theories of faith, based on such ancient tomes as the Bible, the Koran, etc.
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Posted 25 May 2007 - 12:24 PM

Why do some think that you must ignore the presence of God just because you believe in evolution?

The more I study math and science, the more I see a patterns that are in no way a coincidence.

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 12:34 PM

Why do some think that because one believes in evolution they must not believe in God?

Why is it so puzzling that there are those who don't believe in God?

Why must any reference to evolution spark accusations of atheism?

Why is 'faith' in God allowed, but 'faith' in atheism not?
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Posted 25 May 2007 - 12:55 PM

View Postrockhound, on May 25 2007, 01:24 PM, said:

Why do some think that you must ignore the presence of God just because you believe in evolution?

The more I study math and science, the more I see a patterns that are in no way a coincidence.

Why do you seem to believe in an anthropomorphized manifestation you call "God"? When did you first hear about this thing you call "God"? What mechanisms worked on you to develop this belief?

I ask these questions rhetorically because it's my premise that in most people the seeds of "belief" are planted when they are quite young, so young in fact that they are incapable of much if any rational thought. And even though many adults will claim to have rejected "God" in a period of youthful rebellion and they say they came back to "God" at a later much more rational age, it's still those early seeds of belief that concern me. Because if someone is thoroughly indoctrinated with a belief at a very early age, can they ever truly be free of that belief? I argue NO!

All arguments for the existence of "God" begin with the premise God exists. I find that ludicrous! Also incredibly megalomanianical, as the "God created Man in His own image" tripe suggests! I believe conversely that man created God in our own image, as a standard of perfection. Nothing more. Oh, well, as a way to answer the unanswerable questions, like how did everything come to be, where did we come from, where will we go after we die, what does it all mean, etc.
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Posted 25 May 2007 - 12:58 PM

oh boy...this is going to get ugly.

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 01:05 PM

Where is Moe?

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 01:08 PM

View PostSlingen, on May 25 2007, 01:58 PM, said:

oh boy...this is going to get ugly.

Yep...I knew it would.

BTW...I didn't accuse anybody of Atheism.  My comment was just a mere observation about how "the father of modern evolution" has now become a God of sorts to those who believe in his theory.

Another BTW...I believe in God and evolution at the same time....kindof.  I definitely think there is the phenomenon of microevolution...but I don't think my ancestors emerged out of the primordial ooze.

Faith is not a theory...faith is faith in and of itself.
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