Hello all,
I'm looking at Fuji Cross bike and am concerned the 38 / 48 crankset might not be enough for the road hills I encounter. The bike is intended as an all-purpose Katy / commuter / road and gravel grinder. I live in New Haven MO where the hills are frequent and steep. I've tried the Kona Jake with a 50 / 39 / 30 triple and feel it may be a better choice, though to be fair I haven't put either bike on the kind of hills I routinely encounter at home.
Any feedback appreciated!
Oh yeah, I'm age 46, so the granny gear probably ain't too far off for me...
38 / 48 crank for hills
Started by haank, Jun 04 2012 06:30 PM
8 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 04 June 2012 - 06:30 PM
#2
Posted 04 June 2012 - 08:19 PM
I'd consider changing out that 38 chainring for a 36 or 34 before I went with a triple. Much easier to maintain. Guessing the crank has 110 BCD (http://www.sheldonbr...s_bo-z.html#bcd) which would allow that.
Wish I was still 46 and granny gear is no where in my future.
Wish I was still 46 and granny gear is no where in my future.
John Peiffer
#3
Posted 04 June 2012 - 08:36 PM
Double check the BCD; 38-46 is pretty common on 130 BCD cranks as well.
Check the rear derailleur setup to see if it can take one of the 11-28 cassettes available from both shimano and sram now. If you have that, the 38 may be just fine for you climbing hills presuming you're on nothing worse than katy trail-type gravel.
Check the rear derailleur setup to see if it can take one of the 11-28 cassettes available from both shimano and sram now. If you have that, the 38 may be just fine for you climbing hills presuming you're on nothing worse than katy trail-type gravel.
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#4
Posted 04 June 2012 - 09:47 PM
cleeland, on 04 June 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:
Double check the BCD; 38-46 is pretty common on 130 BCD cranks as well.
Check the rear derailleur setup to see if it can take one of the 11-28 cassettes available from both shimano and sram now. If you have that, the 38 may be just fine for you climbing hills presuming you're on nothing worse than katy trail-type gravel.
Check the rear derailleur setup to see if it can take one of the 11-28 cassettes available from both shimano and sram now. If you have that, the 38 may be just fine for you climbing hills presuming you're on nothing worse than katy trail-type gravel.
That works or if you really need a lower gear and stay double ring up front - on my tandem (shifts with regular road levers/brifters), it has a mtb rear derailleur that can take a 34 cassette - just keep shimano/shimano or sram/sram to keep the shift ratios the same.
#5
Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:28 AM
I have a similar setup on my tandem. But on a solo bike not loaded for touring I can't imagine needing any less gearing than a 38-28, which is 1.4:1. Going to 36 gives 1.3:1. 38-34 would be 1.1:1.
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#6
Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:29 PM
I agree with above, try to stick with a double. I had a heck of a time with a triple once and swore I would never have another.
I used to run a 38/48 on my Kona Jake the Snake and switched to a 36/46 cross crank when I built up my Gunnar Cross Hairs. Down here in deep So Ill we have a lot of hills and bluffs and I seem to do ok with the 36/46 and a 12/27 on the back and I am not all that strong. A lot of guys down here ride standard compact 34/50 on their cross bikes and some have mtb rear derailleurs.
Seems like the older you get, the nicer the easier spinning is on the knees...so a std 34/50 compact crank with a mtb rear derailleur and a large cassette may not be a bad idea if you are starting to count decades.
I used to run a 38/48 on my Kona Jake the Snake and switched to a 36/46 cross crank when I built up my Gunnar Cross Hairs. Down here in deep So Ill we have a lot of hills and bluffs and I seem to do ok with the 36/46 and a 12/27 on the back and I am not all that strong. A lot of guys down here ride standard compact 34/50 on their cross bikes and some have mtb rear derailleurs.
Seems like the older you get, the nicer the easier spinning is on the knees...so a std 34/50 compact crank with a mtb rear derailleur and a large cassette may not be a bad idea if you are starting to count decades.
Edited by tileman, 05 June 2012 - 03:30 PM.
#7
Posted 06 June 2012 - 07:06 AM
What components are on the bike now? If its SRAM go with Apex 50/34 and 11-32 with the mid cage RD. Triple range without the fuss.
#8
Posted 06 June 2012 - 07:32 AM
The cross bike I rode last year had a 34/48 crankset and I had a 11-26 cassette. It seemed like the perfect gearing for the gravel that i ride around the weldon springs, defiance, and augusta area. I agree with Aaron that one of the wide range cassette seems like a much better option than a triple chainring if you dont think that you can get up your local hills with a 34x26 or 34x28 gear.
Hear is a ratio cheat sheet that i made to help me pick my gearing:

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Hear is a ratio cheat sheet that i made to help me pick my gearing:

Here is a shameless plug to buy the aforementioned 34/48 equipped gravel crusher:
http://stlbiking.com...yclocross-bike/
-BJ Keane
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#9
Posted 08 June 2012 - 02:46 PM
I'm 50 and a parennial back marker in C races in CX. I also tend to run higher cadence than most. I've run 36 x 46 up front with a 12-27 cassette and have found myself walking or running up only a few hills in the last two years...hills most everyone else ended up running as well. I'd postulate that a 38 x 48 would work just fine with a 12x 27 or 11 x 28 cassette, either of which can be used with most short cage derailleurs.
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