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Bolt on skewer with SRAM X9 hub - does it exist?


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#-14 wesboyce

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 01:55 PM

I've got a bike with horizontal sliding dropouts I want to use a set of rims on that have SRAM X9 hubs.  Since I don't want to use QR skewers because I'm afraid they will slip I'm hoping to figure out a way to use bolt on skewers.  I'd strongly prefer actual nuts to tighten the wheel in place rather than those skewers you can tighten with an allen wrench.  Is this possible?  I should also note I want to keep the current hub setup so I can also use it when QR skewers on a bike with vertical dropouts.
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#-13 SteveFStL

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:55 PM

Don't know about the bolt on axle, but most people have pretty good luck with XT internal cam type skewers and a chain tug.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:14 AM

I assume you are referring to something like the Surly Tuggnut, right?  I checked those out and was immediately scared away when I saw the word "tensioner".  I wouldn't be against using them if someone like you gave them a seal of approval, but after my experiences last year with tensioners I am very hesitant to touch anything that uses the word.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:30 AM

It's a completely different kind of "tensioner."  It doesn't interfere with the chain at all, it's basically just a "stop" for your axle keeping the right side from moving forward in the dropouts.  For this it is pretty much foolproof.  The only issue is that there is nothing to keep the left side from moving rearwards in the dropout due to disc brake force, which is where the xt skewer comes in handy.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:40 AM

Got it, thanks.  I don't think the disc brake force would be an issue because I'm looking at using it on a Felt Breed cyclocross bike that does not have disc brakes.  So from what it sounds like I should be in good shape using a tug device on the drive side of this bike with an internal cam type skewer.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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#-9 SteveFStL

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 10:13 AM

You're correct.  I was assuming disc brake because it's an X9 hub.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 10:23 AM

That is a fair assumption.  It might sound weird that I have that hub, but I also want to use the wheels when I buy a disc equipped cross bike this fall so it is basically to future proof the wheelset.  Thanks for the info!
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#-7 Aaron Koch

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 12:41 PM

What about a DT Swiss RWS Skewer? You can really crank those suckers down.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:21 PM

For what it's worth, I used to race ss cx with a bolt on skewer that ended up slipping
several times. Then I moved to a high quality shimano (dura-ace)  quick release skewer and I haven't had any problems since. I don't see a huge need for the bolt on, and I ride pretty carelessly.




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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:24 PM

View PostAaron Koch, on 27 March 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

What about a DT Swiss RWS Skewer? You can really crank those suckers down.

I hadn't considered that, but it might be worth a shot.  Worst case I get a tug device later if it slips.  I assume the steel mountain version would likely be the best candidate to deal with the rigors of cross.  Thanks for the suggestion.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:27 PM

View PostAnthony Dust, on 27 March 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

For what it's worth, I used to race ss cx with a bolt on skewer that ended up slipping
several times. Then I moved to a high quality shimano (dura-ace)  quick release skewer and I haven't had any problems since. I don't see a huge need for the bolt on, and I ride pretty carelessly.

It must not have been slipping when I raced against you and you turned into a little dot way out in front of me. :D With your info and Aaron's suggestion I'll likely give a skewer a shot.  Thanks!
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:08 PM

Your original post says horizontal sliding dropouts...

Are they horizintal dropouts (aka fork ends) or are they sliding dropouts?  I assume the former.

They sell bolt-on skewers.  I have a set on an old Schwinn.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:01 PM

They are rearward facing sliding dropouts. Hopefully that answers your question.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:04 PM

After some reading I understand rockhound's question better. These are fork ends very similar to what you might find on a track bike.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:37 AM

There are cheap options that may not hold any better than a cheap qr.
http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B000ACAMKG

Or Halo Bolt On skewers
http://weightweenies...php?f=5&t=69823

http://www.universal...ls.php?id=12529

...but a pair of high-end Shimano skewers and a Tuggnut would be close to bombproof.
http://surlybikes.com/parts/tuggnut

(note, a pair of Shimano hubs cost as much as the skewers alone sometimes... Buy the hubs, keep the skewers, and I'll come get the hubs.)